Tire pressure?

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by BailOut

The one that runs at higher pressure, every single time. This has held true over millions of road miles of testing, in every kind of environment and on every type of vehicle it has been tried on. You certainly have the freedom to believe regurgitated rhetoric but for my money I go where the actual testing has been done.

Who paid for this testing? Most tire test done are usually paid for by a certain tire company therefore their results they get might not be as accurate as they really are. Money rules all. Also while we are on this note, you have to be careful what you see and here on TV, the net or magazines. For example, I saw some ad on TV last night that said "Men are 4 times more likely to be struck by lightning than women." I bet there are a lot of people that saw that and said "Damn I'm glad I'm a women," or "Damn being a guy is hard." BUT you have to look more into the situation and understand why that is untrue. It should have said "Men get struck by lightning on average 4 times more than women."

[edisonfire]

i had a set of Bridgestone Winterforce tires put on the Yaris for the winter. I checked the pressure and it's at about 35 psi. The max on the sidewall of the tire said 44 psi. I called the Bridgestone/Firestone tire dealer that installed the tires and asked them why so underinflated. They told me that the best thing to do woudl be to stay within what the car is rated for (whatever it says on the door label)

I think it's a load of crap, cuz I'm losing about 100 kms per tank ever since. Can I inflate to 44psi?

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by edisonfire

i had a set of Bridgestone Winterforce tires put on the Yaris for the winter. I checked the pressure and it's at about 35 psi. The max on the sidewall of the tire said 44 psi. I called the Bridgestone/Firestone tire dealer that installed the tires and asked them why so underinflated. They told me that the best thing to do woudl be to stay within what the car is rated for (whatever it says on the door label)

I think it's a load of crap, cuz I'm losing about 100 kms per tank ever since. Can I inflate to 44psi?

If I was in your boat I'd put them up to 44psi and slowly try going even higher. The only downside to doing this will be a harsher ride, but handling, traction, FE and tire wear will all improve.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by edisonfire

i had a set of Bridgestone Winterforce tires put on the Yaris for the winter. I checked the pressure and it's at about 35 psi. The max on the sidewall of the tire said 44 psi. I called the Bridgestone/Firestone tire dealer that installed the tires and asked them why so underinflated. They told me that the best thing to do woudl be to stay within what the car is rated for (whatever it says on the door label)

I think it's a load of crap, cuz I'm losing about 100 kms per tank ever since. Can I inflate to 44psi?

You dont think that maybe your mpg went down its WINTER??

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Who paid for this testing? Most tire test done are usually paid for by a certain tire company therefore their results they get might not be as accurate as they really are. Money rules all. Also while we are on this note, you have to be careful what you see and here on TV, the net or magazines. For example, I saw some ad on TV last night that said "Men are 4 times more likely to be struck by lightning than women." I bet there are a lot of people that saw that and said "Damn I'm glad I'm a women," or "Damn being a guy is hard." BUT you have to look more into the situation and understand why that is untrue. It should have said "Men get struck by lightning on average 4 times more than women."

You've had bad experiences, but if I was you I'd look deeper into what could have caused your problems, because from my own experience and the experience of plenty of other people over a large number of miles, even going past max sidewall does not cause any problems in the situations like Bailout described.

I don't doubt that you're telling the truth about your own personal experience, but you can't ignore the data gathered by a large membership at CleanMPG for example where no one has had any issues caused from inflating tires to max sidewall or even a little above and the thing is NO ONE paid for this testing. This testing is all done by normal people like you and I and Bailout who have nothing to gain by lying about results. They're only trying to help people be less wasteful of resources and save money with safe practices which are only questioned by the industries which directly benefit from you wasting these same resources.

It's great to have a strong opinion on things, but you can't close the door to so many other peoples experiences or "testing". I'm glad I didn't. I've learned a great deal from Bailout and others like him in the different online communities. To the point where the performance I am getting out of our car is not believed by people who are still pre-believers like I once was.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

You've had bad experiences, but if I was you I'd look deeper into what could have caused your problems, because from my own experience and the experience of plenty of other people over a large number of miles, even going past max sidewall does not cause any problems in the situations like Bailout described.

I don't doubt that you're telling the truth about your own personal experience, but you can't ignore the data gathered by a large membership at CleanMPG for example where no one has had any issues caused from inflating tires to max sidewall or even a little above and the thing is NO ONE paid for this testing. This testing is all done by normal people like you and I and Bailout who have nothing to gain by lying about results. They're only trying to help people be less wasteful of resources and save money with safe practices which are only questioned by the industries which directly benefit from you wasting these same resources.

It's great to have a strong opinion on things, but you can't close the door to so many other peoples experiences or "testing". I'm glad I didn't. I've learned a great deal from Bailout and others like him in the different online communities. To the point where the performance I am getting out of our car is not believed by people who are still pre-believers like I once was.

Well Im happy with getting 44 mpg with no hypermilling techs!

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Well Im happy with getting 44 mpg with no hypermilling techs!

Whatever that means.

I'm always trying to do my best to not waste and cannot understand why someone would brag about underachieving well. I highly doubt you can achieve over 44 mpg on tanks without engaging in common sense, disciplined driving which "others" would label as "hypermiling".

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

Whatever that means.

I'm always trying to do my best to not waste and cannot understand why someone would brag about underachieving well. I highly doubt you can achieve over 44 mpg on tanks without engaging in common sense, disciplined driving which "others" would label as "hypermiling".

So putting 50 psi in a tire is "disciplined driving?"

[voodoo22]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

So putting 50 psi in a tire is "disciplined driving?"

I'm sorry I wasted your time by trying to tell you about what I've learned from others; and actually implemented into my daily practices; in some great online communities where people are open minded to learning from others. Communities where people can learn about other ways of doing things which might prove our previous behaviors to be wrong and misinformed.

As I've slowly learned from some real trend setters like Bailout I've been able to increase my MPG from just over 40 MPG to consistently over 50 mpg on nearly every tank with our AT Yaris and enjoy saving money/resources by reducing wear and tear on our vehicle. I also feel much less stress from driving in a very hostile, extremely busy highway environment as my safety level has increased dramatically as well.

It's not like you're getting bad gas mileage, but I'm sure you could reduce the amount of money you spend on gas and maintenance on your vehicle if you ever put some of the ideas put forward by people like Bailout and members at cleanmpg to the test in your own daily life.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

I'm sorry I wasted your time by trying to tell you about what I've learned from others; and actually implemented into my daily practices; in some great online communities where people are open minded to learning from others. Communities where people can learn about other ways of doing things which might prove our previous behaviors to be wrong and misinformed.

As I've slowly learned from some real trend setters like Bailout I've been able to increase my MPG from just over 40 MPG to consistently over 50 mpg on nearly every tank with our AT Yaris and enjoy saving money/resources by reducing wear and tear on our vehicle. I also feel much less stress from driving in a very hostile, extremely busy highway environment as my safety level has increased dramatically as well.

It's not like you're getting bad gas mileage, but I'm sure you could reduce the amount of money you spend on gas and maintenance on your vehicle if you ever put some of the ideas put forward by people like Bailout and members at cleanmpg to the test in your own daily life.

Who to believe...the new trend setters...or the tire tech and Pat Goss (Goss' Garage) in a recent airing of Motorweek???

Sorry, I'll stick with Goss, and the recent Chrysler TSB that warned about over-inflated tires.

Less contact with the road might be good for gas mileage, but tires are made to be inflated properly, for handling and braking reasons; safety being more important than maximum fuel economy.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by voodoo22

I'm sorry I wasted your time by trying to tell you about what I've learned from others; and actually implemented into my daily practices; in some great online communities where people are open minded to learning from others. Communities where people can learn about other ways of doing things which might prove our previous behaviors to be wrong and misinformed.

As I've slowly learned from some real trend setters like Bailout I've been able to increase my MPG from just over 40 MPG to consistently over 50 mpg on nearly every tank with our AT Yaris and enjoy saving money/resources by reducing wear and tear on our vehicle. I also feel much less stress from driving in a very hostile, extremely busy highway environment as my safety level has increased dramatically as well.

It's not like you're getting bad gas mileage, but I'm sure you could reduce the amount of money you spend on gas and maintenance on your vehicle if you ever put some of the ideas put forward by people like Bailout and members at cleanmpg to the test in your own daily life.

Im just stating what I have seen in real life on my own car. You are the one attacking my results saying that they are impossible. BTW, who pays for this Cleanmpg thingy?

[Sodium Duck]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Well Im happy with getting 44 mpg with no hypermilling techs!

Ummm, yea, please tell me what you do -- I want to do it, too!

I, "hypermile," and I am only getting a paltry 36MPG. Did you rub cheetah blood on your engine block while doing the hokey pokey or soemthing?

[gid]

Originally Posted by Sodium Duck

Ummm, yea, please tell me what you do -- I want to do it, too!

I, "hypermile," and I am only getting a paltry 36MPG. Did you rub cheetah blood on your engine block while doing the hokey pokey or soemthing?

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by Sodium Duck

Ummm, yea, please tell me what you do -- I want to do it, too!

I, "hypermile," and I am only getting a paltry 36MPG. Did you rub cheetah blood on your engine block while doing the hokey pokey or soemthing?

I set the cruise on 70, with AC on(it's 80 degress with 100% humidity today in TX and its December) run the cheapest gas I can find, I don't idle to warm up, etc. I do have a K&N drop-in in both of my Yaris's. I have a 40 mile commute to work that is very hilly and has a lot of curves......44 mpg!