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Parmas · 10-29-2010, 11:18 AM

I brought the car to my tuner that specifically recommends Haltech ecus. He worked about 2 days trying to start but the engine persist to misfire and cannot remain idle at all. We checked the triggerring signal and it seems to be inconsistent everytime we try to start the engine. He also tried to vary filtering levels but invain.

My tuner is about sure that the problem might be coming from an issue specifically related to the 36-2 + 3 Sequence Toyota use.

Garm, did you had any issues with your AEM ecu regarding triggering?

cali yaris · 10-29-2010, 12:45 PM

^ no problems at all, sorry!

Parmas · 10-30-2010, 02:39 AM

The problem is about sure that is a software issue but we need Haltech support to solve it before we continue.... sooo the car goes back again into my fu..ing garage.

If haltech will not solve it within the next month I have no choice but to make custom triggering wheels for the crank and the cam using Haltech Hall Effect sensors.

I hope this would be the last issue as I am really pissed of about this engine and it is making me sick.

Blown_xa · 12-12-2010, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parmas

The problem is about sure that is a software issue but we need Haltech support to solve it before we continue.... sooo the car goes back again into my fu..ing garage.

If haltech will not solve it within the next month I have no choice but to make custom triggering wheels for the crank and the cam using Haltech Hall Effect sensors.

I hope this would be the last issue as I am really pissed of about this engine and it is making me sick.

they (haltec), may have told u this already, the crank trigger settings are the same as the scion tc (they flew to our shop to create basemap on our dyno). are you using the sport 1000 or sprint 500? if you ever run into the issue of accelerating hard thru the gears and then the car hits a "cut", pm me and ill tell u the fix, has to do with the crank trigger voltage and filter settings.
cool build!

Parmas · 12-13-2010, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown_xa

they (haltec), may have told u this already, the crank trigger settings are the same as the scion tc (they flew to our shop to create basemap on our dyno). are you using the sport 1000 or sprint 500? if you ever run into the issue of accelerating hard thru the gears and then the car hits a "cut", pm me and ill tell u the fix, has to do with the crank trigger voltage and filter settings.
cool build!

Hi man, the issue wasn't the triggering but the ignition modules. Haltech replaced them with built in ignitor coils and worked like a charm.

Now I am tuning the engine myself and till now I done mapping of the engine with 9psi boost and 5000rpm [with AFR LOW 14 / HI 10.5 (boost) ]. This week I am preparing the car for the final tune which is the 2ZZ intake. If all goes fine, I have to retune the engine for the larger o/d of the 2ZZ intake Throttle Body (70mm) and runners

Blown_xa · 12-13-2010, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parmas

Hi man, the issue wasn't the triggering but the ignition modules. Haltech replaced them with built in ignitor coils and worked like a charm.

Now I am tuning the engine myself and till now I done mapping of the engine with 9psi boost and 5000rpm [with AFR LOW 14 / HI 10.5 (boost) ]. This week I am preparing the car for the final tune which is the 2ZZ intake. If all goes fine, I have to retune the engine for the larger o/d of the 2ZZ intake Throttle Body (70mm) and runners

sweet, love that haltec software i bet. It is really nice. That 70mm throttle body should open up a lot of power.

Parmas · 12-15-2010, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown_xa

sweet, love that haltec software i bet. It is really nice. That 70mm throttle body should open up a lot of power.

After my experience with this unit, I can say it is worth the money and since now I seen no issues with it. Solid rock ecu, full of description on all option tabs ( a must for beginners ) and reliable performance. Also to consider that it is good for almost any engine and features latest cam control technology + stock sensor compatability.

I am no expert on tuning, and with this unit I was capable to tune a reliable 9psi boost till 5000rpm (at least for now :) )

I am hoping better response with this intake. Let's be straight, If any would tell you what do you prefer between a custom intake or a Toyota proven one, I vote for Toyota and here it is!

I hope it will be ready for a christmas present to my self

cali yaris · 10-30-2010, 02:07 PM

oh man that is tough -- so sorry you've gone through so much to get this far, but it's SO close now!

Parmas · 11-20-2010, 12:43 PM

ITS ALIVE IT'S ALIVE

A fu*king ignition module was the reason. Thanks to haltech support I was able to solve the problem after they got me replaced with new coils instead. Now it idles like a sweet girl smiles at you and rev up like never before and this only with a map sent from haltech!!

Now I need to install the last few bits:

- NST 3x pulley kit
- Nitto torque damper
- Celica 2ZZ-GE intake manifold + 2ZZ-GE 72mm throttle Body

Also I noticed that from the output hole of the turbo (that goes into the intercooler piping) it leaks some oil from it. It happens when revving much the engine. Could be the seals of the turbo that need replacement or should I leave it?

What I need to do? Is it expensive to repair it? What are the items needed?

cali yaris · 11-20-2010, 12:52 PM

congrats that is awesome

Parmas · 11-20-2010, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cali yaris

congrats that is awesome

What do you suggest about the turbo oil leak problem garm?

Yoda · 11-20-2010, 03:43 PM

What's your oil pressure like when u rev it?

Parmas · 11-27-2010, 03:26 AM

And look what arrived yesterday!

A 2ZZ intake with a 70mm throttle body! Tried fitting on spare engine and there are only minor issues to solve :

- To mate the 1NZ intake flange with the 2ZZ intake
- Some clearing issues on the front ( It could be that the intake hit radiator piping)
- Right Mounting holes
- Increase length of right intercooler pipe due to throttle body at an angle

If this works I cannot say what are the gains but at least I can show that it can be done!

Parmas · 12-07-2010, 02:13 PM

Please check this thread.... http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...932#post539932

fnkngrv · 12-13-2010, 07:45 PM

the human head weighs 8 pounds

Bluevitz-rs · 12-15-2010, 06:57 PM

Do you have any pictures of the progress on the manifold? Is he just custom fabricating the upper portion of the manifold so it fits the 1NZ head and the lower part of the 2ZZ manifold?

cdydjded · 12-15-2010, 08:27 PM

I dont & will never claim to be an expert, but thx for the compliment ; )

I can tell you that long manifold runners are not made for boost, short runners are. So a manifold with shorter runners would improve airflow on boosted application. But there are many factors that need to be taken in cosideration such as:
Turbo size
Boost level
Cylinder head flow
Intended use (street or strip)

Im going to read over all of Parmas posts to give you my thoughts on the matter....

cdydjded · 12-15-2010, 08:59 PM

After reading 21 pages of post all I can see is an engine that makes 250hp & that Parmas cant stop adding parts to his car. He need to stop making adding thinga & tune & dyno the car as it is. Thats my 2 cents...

10-29-2010, 12:45 PM	#2
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ no problems at all, sorry! __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

10-30-2010, 02:07 PM	#8
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	oh man that is tough -- so sorry you've gone through so much to get this far, but it's SO close now! __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

11-20-2010, 12:52 PM	#10
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	congrats that is awesome __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

12-13-2010, 07:45 PM	#15
fnkngrv Mr. 155 and climbing View User's Garage Drives: Seriously Modded 07 Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In The Hotbox Posts: 4,742	the human head weighs 8 pounds __________________ Team Tiamat Racing on Facebook Youtube Channel: Team Tiamat Racing *Class record holder in Land Speed @ 154.5mph for 1.5 mile and 145.5mph in the mile in the F (2.016 to 3.014 L), G (1.524 to 2.015 L), and H (1.016 to 1.523 L) classes.*

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10-29-2010, 11:18 AM	#1
Parmas Drives: Vitz RS Turbo Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ML Posts: 577	I brought the car to my tuner that specifically recommends Haltech ecus. He worked about 2 days trying to start but the engine persist to misfire and cannot remain idle at all. We checked the triggerring signal and it seems to be inconsistent everytime we try to start the engine. He also tried to vary filtering levels but invain. My tuner is about sure that the problem might be coming from an issue specifically related to the 36-2 + 3 Sequence Toyota use. Garm, did you had any issues with your AEM ecu regarding triggering?

10-30-2010, 02:39 AM	#3
Parmas Drives: Vitz RS Turbo Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ML Posts: 577	The problem is about sure that is a software issue but we need Haltech support to solve it before we continue.... sooo the car goes back again into my fu..ing garage. If haltech will not solve it within the next month I have no choice but to make custom triggering wheels for the crank and the cam using Haltech Hall Effect sensors. I hope this would be the last issue as I am really pissed of about this engine and it is making me sick.

11-20-2010, 12:43 PM	#9
Parmas Drives: Vitz RS Turbo Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ML Posts: 577	ITS ALIVE IT'S ALIVE A fu*king ignition module was the reason. Thanks to haltech support I was able to solve the problem after they got me replaced with new coils instead. Now it idles like a sweet girl smiles at you and rev up like never before and this only with a map sent from haltech!! Now I need to install the last few bits: - NST 3x pulley kit - Nitto torque damper - Celica 2ZZ-GE intake manifold + 2ZZ-GE 72mm throttle Body Also I noticed that from the output hole of the turbo (that goes into the intercooler piping) it leaks some oil from it. It happens when revving much the engine. Could be the seals of the turbo that need replacement or should I leave it? What I need to do? Is it expensive to repair it? What are the items needed?

11-20-2010, 03:43 PM	#12
Yoda Drives: 2008 Black Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: FL Posts: 966	What's your oil pressure like when u rev it?

12-07-2010, 02:13 PM	#14
Parmas Drives: Vitz RS Turbo Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: ML Posts: 577	Please check this thread.... http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/sho...932#post539932

12-15-2010, 06:57 PM	#16
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	Do you have any pictures of the progress on the manifold? Is he just custom fabricating the upper portion of the manifold so it fits the 1NZ head and the lower part of the 2ZZ manifold?

12-15-2010, 08:27 PM	#17
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	I dont & will never claim to be an expert, but thx for the compliment ; ) I can tell you that long manifold runners are not made for boost, short runners are. So a manifold with shorter runners would improve airflow on boosted application. But there are many factors that need to be taken in cosideration such as: Turbo size Boost level Cylinder head flow Intended use (street or strip) Im going to read over all of Parmas posts to give you my thoughts on the matter....

12-15-2010, 08:59 PM	#18
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	After reading 21 pages of post all I can see is an engine that makes 250hp & that Parmas cant stop adding parts to his car. He need to stop making adding thinga & tune & dyno the car as it is. Thats my 2 cents...