TC swap?

[Sabretooth]

Sounds like I need to revamp the old "motor swap thread"
2az (New TC 2.4L Motor) Will not fit.

Reasons why,
1. Its a BIG motor compared to the Yaris motor, I mean yes it is small in comparrison to other 2.4L motors, but it is fairly too big to fit in the tiny Hatchback engine bay, even the sedan engine bay wouldnt hold that much.

2. The complete orientation of the motor is reversed from the Yaris, meaning that the hot side (exhaust) and cold side (intake) are reversed...This will only complicate things if you want to keep the ECU and cooling parts in their same area, IF you wedge the motor in the car, but the header is 3 centimeters from the radiator, your going to have a small issue. Or if its 3 centimeters from the ECU, problems once more. The hardest part of this particular swap, would be rebuilding the engine bay from the ground up to make everything fit and work in a harmonous manner. Plus there is the downfall of having to change either the complete setup of the engine bay, or the orientation of the motor...CUSTOM WORK, of course your going to expect it when it comes to exhaust and intake piping, but when you have to change drivetrain parts, who says that the TC transmission is even going to come close to fitting, and if even clear certain critical parts of the Yaris. Then your going to have to pray that after all this, you can bolt up to the origional driveshafts, if not...more custom and costly work.

3. IF you were to swap this in, there are better and smaller motors out there that can generate the same if not more HP than this engine. The 2az TC motor only produces about 160hp, the Xb version even less...Now compare that to a 1zz from the Celica (140hp) add intake, exhaust, header, pulleys and you are at the same HP level. Cram a 2zz in there and your looking at 170ish HP. A 4age Blacktop is around the same HP as the 2az. I am not saying the 2az is a bad motor, just there are more motors out there, than just the TC one.

4. Money, IF you are willing to spend this kind of money into a car, I would assume that more than likely you could have afforded a nicer/faster car. If you wanted 160hp to start, why not buy a last gen Civic SI hatch (Not trying to promote Honda, but just being honest).

5. With money comes another idea, instead of tearing apart EVERYTHING in hope that you can start new, take the existing motor, redo internals and try boost. Almost every application using a turbocharger out there is putting down 150WHP (WHEEL, not base), which is about 170bhp. I am not claiming that the 1nz (Yaris motor) is the best canidate for the forced induction market, but by no means does it have no potential...Just ask Garm


Oh and to clear up the cost of a 2az motor, cheapest one I found was $1100, no transmission, no ECU, no wiring harness, etc...cheapest with all that was about $2000, but with a 4spd auto, "Complete".

Oh, and heres the application list for all vehicles that have a 2azfe in them...
Most common application is the TC, and Camry
Toyota Camry (2002-2009)
Toyota Matrix XRS/Pontiac Vibe (2009-)
Toyota Corolla XRS (2009-)
Toyota Camry Solara (2004-)
Toyota RAV4 (2006-2008)
Toyota Highlander/Kluger (2001-2003)
Toyota Estima / Toyota Previa / Toyota Tarago
Toyota Alphard
Toyota Blade
Scion tC
Scion xB (2008-)