Bottoming out while heavy breaking/turning

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

Yes and Subarus as well. Like I said.. you just have to be smooth. I've only done it on the track though, not on the street.

Yes if you start stabbing at the brake pedal, you are going to lock the wheels.

ahh, well you're good then!

[scape]

i didn't realize there was a difference (abs deactivated vs non-abs), but that makes sense seeing how abs needs to pump the brakes so rapidly

abs really gets in the way on smooth and dry surfaces, where it's not needed so much, but comes into play anyways.. on gravel and wet, it has it's ups ;D

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by Tamago

ahh, well you're good then!

No real point in disabling it for the street though. It is no fun driving around on D shaped tires.

I locked the front wheels once in the Yaris (non ABS car) and flatspotted the front tires in a panic brake situation from 90 to about 30. It put a bad flat spot on the fronts.

Luckily I needed new tires anyway.

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by scape

i didn't realize there was a difference (abs deactivated vs non-abs), but that makes sense seeing how abs needs to pump the brakes so rapidly

The non ABS cars have a more linear brake feel so you can modulate better.

ABS cars are generally have more boos and are less linear to give lots of brake with minimal pedal travel, and the ABS will modulate if necessary.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by scape

i didn't realize there was a difference (abs deactivated vs non-abs), but that makes sense seeing how abs needs to pump the brakes so rapidly

abs really gets in the way on smooth and dry surfaces, where it's not needed so much, but comes into play anyways.. on gravel and wet, it has it's ups ;D

i'd like to see someone out-brake my ABS with EBD on dry pavement :D it's superb, in fact i genuinely feel that in a straight line, current ABS systems will easily out perform the average driver's foot

[largeorangefont]

Originally Posted by Tamago

i'd like to see someone out-brake my ABS with EBD on dry pavement :D it's superb, in fact i genuinely feel that in a straight line, current ABS systems will easily out perform the average driver's foot

I agree. the key word is average.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by largeorangefont

I agree. the key word is average.

how many above average drivers are in this thread? not me!