K&N Filters

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

I watched my Taco roll off of the delivery carrier from GST. I even helped them pull off the white protective coverings! I touched the truck before the dealership touched it!

Nice. You made the same statement a year ago, but you didn't go into any of the details about watching it roll off the carrier...etc.

So Im sorry your little tip was probably glued on at your dealer but my system was done before the dealer!

Not what I was talking about. I was talking about how most "power packages" are dealer installed...sometimes the vehicle has to be drop-shipped to Florida (for example) when you start adding "build" options to a new car/truck. But it seems to not be the case, with your Tacoma. Not how it usually works, so not a very good example.

Yes I did say that Toyota likes them. Do you think they would still install them on SOME of their products if they hated them?? Surely not. There is a lot of products out there that are better than what Toyota installs on their products. Tires for example. They install tires that only last around 25,000 miles when there are tires out there that can triple that! But I guess Toyota knows what is better huh!

I thought we were talking about filters...

BTW, I've seen dealers install "power packages" that they "hated" because of various reasons - they don't have to love what they sell and install...don't know why you think that's some sort of law. Personally I'd think it would be up to the customer to love it or hate it.

And I don't see any new PMs, so I guess it was too much to ask to keep this inspirational exchange to ourselves. You're right, we really should share it with our friends.

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

Nice. You made the same statement a year ago, but you didn't go into any of the details about watching it roll off the carrier...etc.




Not what I was talking about. I was talking about how most "power packages" are dealer installed...sometimes the vehicle has to be drop-shipped to Florida (for example) when you start adding "build" options to a new car/truck. But it seems to not be the case, with your Tacoma. Not how it usually works, so not a very good example.

I don't know...doesn't appear that the dust problem is quite as scarey as you made it out to be. A paper filter would probably last longer than 1 month, like you claimed, and could probably be just shaken out & with a little bit of low pressure shop air applied could be put back in service just as easy as the K&N.





I thought we were talking about filters...

BTW, I've seen dealers install "power packages" that they "hated" because of various reasons - they don't have to love what they sell and install...don't know why you think that's some sort of law. Personally I'd think it would be up to the customer to love it or hate it.

And I don't see any new PMs, so I guess it was too much to ask to keep this inspirational exchange to ourselves. You're right, we really should share it with our friends.

Yes I did make a statement a year ago....about my 2008 Yaris not my 2005 Taco. I did a preference order on the Yaris. Which means I picked it up the same day it came. The Taco was a whole other story. I just happen to be there when it was brought in by the carrier. When I talked about "Toyota" Im talking about the folks who build the trucks from the ground up. I'm not talking about Bobby Joe at the dealership that has the job of installing mods that the service manger ordered off of ebay. I would hate it too if my job was to install things that don't exactly match up the the vehicle or something that was installed by a robot at the plant.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Yes I did make a statement a year ago....about my 2008 Yaris not my 2005 Taco. I did a preference order on the Yaris. Which means I picked it up the same day it came. The Taco was a whole other story. I just happen to be there when it was brought in by the carrier. When I talked about "Toyota" Im talking about the folks who build the trucks from the ground up. I'm not talking about Bobby Joe at the dealership that has the job of installing mods that the service manger ordered off of ebay. I would hate it too if my job was to install things that don't exactly match up the the vehicle or something that was installed by a robot at the plant.

What ebay parts are you talking about...I'm talking about official Toyota accessories that are on the "build your Yaris" link at Toyota.com ...just check the boxes...you didn't know that? Whoa!

Ever been to the Mini site? You used to check the box on the JCW package, and it was NOT a factory installed option, maybe it is now?

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

What ebay parts are you talking about...I'm talking about official Toyota accessories that are on the "build your Yaris" link at Toyota.com ...just check the boxes...you didn't know that? Whoa!

Ever been to the Mini site? You used to check the box on the JCW package, and it was NOT a factory installed option, maybe it is now?

OK, one example: if you go to a dealer and want power locks added to your car, more than likely they may install an aftermarket kit rather than OEM. Yes I have been to the build your own site. Some of the things they have to will be added at the dealer(for example window tint). Some of the things will be added by the distributor(for example the Vehicle Shield Package) Some of the things will be added when the vehicle is built at the plant. For example, if you want the power package, it will be added at the plant, the majority of the time. If someone buys a non-power package Yaris and wants to add OEM door locks then I could see where the dealer "hates" these situations. The installer is probably thinking, Why didn't they just buy one that already had the package from the plant. It would be easier to add aftermarket locks to a Yaris rather than add the OEM system.

And once again, we are talking about Toyotas, and the Yaris.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

OK, one example: if you go to a dealer and want power locks added to your car, more than likely they may install an aftermarket kit rather than OEM. Yes I have been to the build your own site. Some of the things they have to will be added at the dealer(for example window tint). Some of the things will be added by the distributor(for example the Vehicle Shield Package) Some of the things will be added when the vehicle is built at the plant. For example, if you want the power package, it will be added at the plant

No, last time I checked the Bobcat 455 GTO package was about a 4 grand dealer installed option...and even tho' Steeda Mustangs are sold new at the Ford dealerships, they're dropped shipped and built NOT at the Ford factory, etc...

If someone buys a non-power package Yaris and wants to add OEM door locks then I could see where the dealer "hates" these situations. The installer is probably thinking, Why didn't they just buy one that already had the package from the plant. It would be easier to add aftermarket locks to a Yaris rather than add the OEM system.

You know what they think?

And once again, we are talking about Toyotas, and the Yaris.

Yes, that's why I mentioned that some of those clickable build options on the build page for my TOYOTA Yaris was NOT factory installed. And you do realize that lots of work is done on many vehicles, after leaving the factory, after getting off the boat and before being loaded on the semi...and yes, we're talking about your little Toyota Tacoma package that included a K&N filter, on what, about .0006% of new Toyotas being sold? Wow!! LOL!

[b_hickman11]

Originally Posted by 1stToyota

No, last time I checked the Bobcat 455 GTO package was about a 4 grand dealer installed option...and even tho' Steeda Mustangs are sold new at the Ford dealerships, they're dropped shipped and built NOT at the Ford factory, etc...



You know what they think?



Yes, that's why I mentioned that some of those clickable build options on the build page for my TOYOTA Yaris was NOT factory installed. And you do realize that lots of work is done on many vehicles, after leaving the factory, after getting off the boat and before being loaded on the semi...and yes, we're talking about your little Toyota Tacoma package that included a K&N filter, on what, about .0006% of new Toyotas being sold? Wow!! LOL!

Once again, we are talking Toyota!! Not other companies. No one cares what other companies are doing. Everything I have said was about Toyota. You are taking what I said about Toyota and applying it to Ford and Mini but you don’t have any information about Toyota?? You are the one that the dealers “hated” some of the mods that that have to install at the dealership. I just repeated what you said but now you’re saying that’s not true? Make up your mind! Yes, as I already stated(thanks for repeating me, again) I know dealers and the distributor can add some things to a vehicle. But my Truck was built in Texas so it was never on a boat. And yes as we already stated, it is less than 1% of the total vehicles. So good job on knowing that .0006% is less than 1%. We are so proud of you! You are learning so much! It brings a tear to my eye!

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by b_hickman11

Once aalready stated, it is less than 1% of the total !

Mmmmmm--less than 1%? Way less?!!! Yeah, knew Toyota loved installing those K&N filters sooooooooooo often in their new Toyotas. Then that wasn't much of a point you were trying to make about Toyota not having problems with installing K&N filters...way less than 1% looks like a problem to me. Paper FTW!!!!!

btw You just stated that the dealers hated me for installing a mod on my car at their dealership, why? It was just an option that Toyota offered for my Yaris, on their build website...why would they "hate" me for making more money off of me, installing a Toyota part on a Toyota Yaris? We're starting to see just how desperate you are.

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