Looking Into Turbo

[RacerFreakXXX]

so far this is what I am planning for a turbo build, and I still can't decide if it's worth it to build the internals and finding a turbo that has the exhaust facing the passenger side. Also this is just what, I've found that I am decided on. I'm going to price it down to the exact and go from there.

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motor: $500-$1000
Crower Rods: $800

CP Pistons 1NZFE/ 75mm bore/ 9.0:1 compression ratio: $600
(almost impossible to find at stock bore, yay ebay)

or

HP Engine Kit: $1000
- Complete Gasket Set
-Performance MLS Head Gasket
-ROSS/Wiseco Forged Pistons
(75, 75.5, 76mm) and
(8.5, 9.0, 9.5, 10.0 comp ratio)
-Plasma Moly Rings
-TOGA HP Main Bearings
-TOGA HP Rod Bearings
-Thrust Washers
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NST Lite Pulley Set(blue): $300
Perrin Fuel Rail: $200
Scion TC Injectors: $150 used
Exedy Stage 1 clutch(16800A): $300
Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel: $300
KAZZ LSD: $900
NST Short Shifter components: $300
Nitto Engine Torque Damper: $150

[Tamago]

good luck on the fuel rail. if you want 2AZFE injectors i'll sell my set for cheaper than 150

[RacerFreakXXX]

i'm just pricing things out right now, and going based on turbo aplication, because i want the downpipe on the passenger side so I don't have to deal with crazy intercooler and intake piping. If I have to get a custom manifold made then i will just wait till i have the money for another engine and build it up fully. Is there an issue with the fuel rail, i saw it fits on xb's and xa's?

[1nz]

Im also in process on installing an NCP31 HKS 1NZ-FE Bodykit on my yaris got the turbokit, rmanage ultimate n greddy pressure sensor, still saving to get an injector RC, FIC or Bosch/ Walbro 255lph fuel pump, double head gasket and custom piping

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

i'm just pricing things out right now, and going based on turbo aplication, because i want the downpipe on the passenger side so I don't have to deal with crazy intercooler and intake piping. If I have to get a custom manifold made then i will just wait till i have the money for another engine and build it up fully. Is there an issue with the fuel rail, i saw it fits on xb's and xa's?

dude, if you want the turbo inlet to be on the passenger side........... turn it around and reclock the inlet side.

oh and do a top mount intercooler.

[mrbond]

^ yeah, just like the JDM NCP91. You'd probably need to either get a new hood, which would look awesome, or do some under-hood air rerouting.

[Nexus1155]

or just cut a scoop goin down into the IC and fiberglass/paint and call it a day

[CASTREX]

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

i'm just pricing things out right now, and going based on turbo aplication, because i want the downpipe on the passenger side so I don't have to deal with crazy intercooler and intake piping. If I have to get a custom manifold made then i will just wait till i have the money for another engine and build it up fully. Is there an issue with the fuel rail, i saw it fits on xb's and xa's?

You can do that with any T25 turbo and with a regular revhard manifold...

No need for anything custom for what you have in mind...

[RacerFreakXXX]

Actually a top mount intercooler is what I had in mind. I was thinking about using the kaminari hood and mount the intercooler in front of the engine.



My main concern with switching the turbo around is it not fitting, you seem to have a lot of space behind the engine so I would just feel more comfortable knowing that it would surely fit.

Aren't revhard manifolds the same quality as ebay? where would you pick one up?

Also I think i'd rather get a Turbinetech manifold imo.

[lilredrocket]

Look how close that is to the brake lines.

[changchewsoon]

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

CP Pistons 1NZFE/ 75mm bore/ 9.0:1 compression ratio: $600
(almost impossible to find at stock bore, yay ebay)

I would suggest that you might want to get the pistons slightly over sized, say 75.5mm rather then standard size at 75mm.

Due to wear and tear the cylinder bore might be a little worn out and hence a slightly over sized pistons will ensure the rings fit in nicely.

Best if you could get your mech to properly measure the bores to determine how much larger you need to go if you want to be really sure.

It is always better to be safe than sorry later, just my 2 cents.

By the way, I got my CP pistons from Race Engineering together with the piston rings and side skirt coating for less than USD 600. The compression ratio is 9.0 and the piston design is flat top.

[RacerFreakXXX]

now i've been comparing supercharger vs turbo cost and this is what i came up with is that for 2-3k i can get the hks turbo kit and for 3-4k i can get the blitz supercharger. My question is EMS, once again... I know I'm going to need a ems for the turbo but i see tons of people running the supercharger w/o. Now I can find a shop that will tune the yaris my question is if it's worth it to grab the hks kit, get some custom piping done with an intercooler and try and tune that or grab the supercharger and play it safe. I just have a gut feeling that a turbo would make my car go boom if something was slightly wrong with my setup and for the little extra the supercharger would be safe and easier to maintain in the long run. Am I just being paranoid and think I should go for the hks turbo? I'm not going to buy it till summer when I have a place to install the turbo.

Also I was comparing weight to power ratio against other cars and I found that with the supercharger you should technically be about as fast as a stock rsx type s or prelude and with the turbo you should be about as fast as a stock wrx( not the 09+ with 265bhp)

[1nz]

it could actaully beat the rsx s, tested against one of those

[RacerFreakXXX]

supercharger or turbo

[cali yaris]

get the TRD trans mount, you won't need the torque damper.

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by RacerFreakXXX

now i've been comparing supercharger vs turbo cost and this is what i came up with is that for 2-3k i can get the hks turbo kit and for 3-4k i can get the blitz supercharger. My question is EMS, once again... I know I'm going to need a ems for the turbo but i see tons of people running the supercharger w/o. Now I can find a shop that will tune the yaris my question is if it's worth it to grab the hks kit, get some custom piping done with an intercooler and try and tune that or grab the supercharger and play it safe. I just have a gut feeling that a turbo would make my car go boom if something was slightly wrong with my setup and for the little extra the supercharger would be safe and easier to maintain in the long run. Am I just being paranoid and think I should go for the hks turbo? I'm not going to buy it till summer when I have a place to install the turbo.

Also I was comparing weight to power ratio against other cars and I found that with the supercharger you should technically be about as fast as a stock rsx type s or prelude and with the turbo you should be about as fast as a stock wrx( not the 09+ with 265bhp)

beating a dead horse here

top mount + meth injection + HKS kit (that comes with engine management)

skip the front mount

[RacerFreakXXX]

for intake and top mount intercooler i was thinking about running the intake tube up against the firewall and then use a wider diameter tube leading up to the intake and then putting a long thin intercooler more towards the front of the engine, over the intake manifold. Doing this would eliminate the issue of heat soak if you use a vented hood, such as c-one or kaminari. Also running an intake tube along the front of the engine would interfere with the radiator hosing. Opinions?

[Tamago]

do it.

i wont hate you for copying my setup either ;) if you so choose