Ignition vs. Roll start?

[Tamago]

Originally Posted by BailOut

You seemed to have missed the point that the brakes are still good for 4-5 touches before the vacuum needs to be recharged.

4-5 touches, but in that panic moment when you NEED the vacuum, where is it? .8 miles back when you getting a boner over saving 3oz of fuel.....

I would also like to point out that in well over 3mil miles of hypermilers on the road, not a single hypermiling-related accident has been reported by drivers nor by any police force anywhere in the world.

so you think a hypermiler is going to report that his/her own stupid actions caused him to rear-end the guy in front of him? "yes officer, well, i turned off my engine, to save fuel, and somehow it rear-ended the guy in front of me in the process".. yeah right... he/she told the cop that the "throttle stuck" and he was forced to slam into the guy in front..... wait, that sounds VERY familiar.

I understand that hypermiling is different than what you know,

i perfectly understand the obsession with "saving 3mpg".. it's much like collecting baseball cards or "action figures" hoping that in 30 years they'll be worth something..

but please do not sensationalize it.

there's nothing sensational about wasting time to save pennies It is simply a compromise for time over distance.. a different way to drive a car, and it works.[/QUOTE]

you do what you gotta do... but congratulating a guy about his ability to coast down a hill sans-power-braking is just retarded. it's not worth the ounces of fuel saved... especially considering the fact that most of you are wasting the money spent on gas...... on some other stupid obsession, like action figure collections...

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by Tamago

it's not worth the ounces of fuel saved...

One thing that generally gets lost in these discussions is the true motivation. It's not the pennies worth of fuel saved. It's being able to go on forums like these and say "I finally hit 50 mpg!" and have a couple dozen people 'attaboy you for doing so well. That's the true motivation and potential pay off.

-Steve

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

One thing that generally gets lost in these discussions is the true motivation. It's not the pennies worth of fuel saved. It's being able to go on forums like these and say "I finally hit 50 mpg!" and have a couple dozen people 'attaboy you for doing so well. That's the true motivation and potential pay off.

-Steve

That's quite an assumption on your part, and an incorrect one at that.

I'm beginning to sense a pattern here...

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by BailOut

That's quite an assumption on your part

If you are arguing that a general sense of "I'm being green" is often involved, I would agree. But by the time one gets to things like coasting with the engine off, the game has become more about the numbers than about the green.

-Steve

[BailOut]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

If you are arguing that a general sense of "I'm being green" is often involved, I would agree. But by the time one gets to things like coasting with the engine off, the game has become more about the numbers than about the green.

-Steve

That's quite an assumption on your part, and an incorrect one at that.

I DO sense a pattern here...

[Gideon]

Originally Posted by silver_vios

I'm assuming you can't think of a good response to sbergman or tamago, so you're just babbling about assumptions now.

lol, well judging from your reply and join date I'm going to assume you're quite new and don't know BailOut very well.

My guess is he wants to conserve energy by not having to type out a multi-paragraph reply justifying his passion for conserving finite resources.

[1stToyota]

Originally Posted by sbergman27

One thing that generally gets lost in these discussions is the true motivation. It's not the pennies worth of fuel saved. It's being able to go on forums like these and say "I finally hit 50 mpg!" and have a couple dozen people 'attaboy you for doing so well. That's the true motivation and potential pay off.

-Steve

You're wrong, it IS about the pennies, or at least it is with the guy you're debating. Not too long ago he worked it out that if someone is able to avoid using one's blower motor for 75 years!! they'll save enough $$ to get 2 free tanks of fuel in their Yaris. WOW! I doubt that anybody has ever done that or will ever do that so I guess we'll trust his math.

I don't know, I drive with the flow of traffic, run 32 psi in my tires, leave my engine running when going down hills, use my accessories, ignore my gas gauge until it's time for a refill and still manage to get between 41-44 mpg...probably close to the average hypermiler w/ their mpg banners in their sigs, at this forum.

[Loren]

Originally Posted by Tamago

especially considering the fact that most of you are wasting the money spent on gas...

I waste the money I save by hypermiling (which, honestly, is NOT very much... I added it up to maybe $150/year max) on motorsports entry fees!

I don't get extreme with it. I don't drive slower than the flow of traffic, and generally don't accelerate slower than they typical "slow poke", I don't run red lights, and... what was this thread about? Oh yeah... I don't shut off the ignition in my normal driving. To me, it's far more trouble than it's worth for daily driving.

As with many things, there are different levels of "hypermiling". Don't assume that everyone who does it is the extreme example. I do it merely to entertain and challenge myself in some way other than pushing the limits of the car's acceleration and handling ability on the street. Keeps me out of trouble.