rear seats?

[bkrownd]

Originally Posted by osmoq

Also...I read somewhere that the base model doesn't come with radio? I'm talking just standard am/fm. But I've heard conflicting reports on that...is that true? (2010 model)

As he says above the base model (that's me!) has no radio at all.

IMO, the world must have turned upside-down the day when when cupholders and A.C. became standard features, but a cheap radio and rear window wiper are only options. Whaaaat???

[osmoq]

Originally Posted by bkrownd

As he says above the base model (that's me!) has no radio at all.

IMO, the world must have turned upside-down the day when when cupholders and A.C. became standard features, but a cheap radio and rear window wiper are only options. Whaaaat???

Yeah, I kind of agree...I can't believe radio of all things isn't standard. What is there, then? Because there are speakers...so can you plug stuff in to play?
And so the back seats do fold down...are they any less flat than the 60/40 split ones?


And SCT...yeah, I know. I hate it because I really don't care about most of that stuff, but the two things I want require me to get the POWER package... I just want a basic car with A/C, a RADIO (lol), to be able to fold the back seat down, cruise control, and power windows (although I'm waffling on that...but I'm thinking that I want to be able to control the back windows while I'm on the highway, so I guess I'll go for it...). Why can't it just come with that?
I don't care about power door locks, satellite radio, etc. lol

Thanks for all the clarification...I keep reading conflicting things, maybe coming from different models or something, so I couldn't find definitive information.

The only thing is if I NEED to upgrade because I'll be driving it in the winter, then I will. So if anyone has specific comments about that, that would be great. Although it looks like I might be upgrading more than I intended, anyway... Ah, well...a rear window defroster will be nice I suppose... :p

I still might just go with the base. What good is having this car going to be if I can't afford to go on the road trips I'm planning? :)

Thanks for the help, all of you!!

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by osmoq

Yeah, I kind of agree...I can't believe radio of all things isn't standard. What is there, then? Because there are speakers...so can you plug stuff in to play?

Yes

And so the back seats do fold down...are they any less flat than the 60/40 split ones?

Yes and yes. The split-folding rear seat is better if you plan to haul a lot of things in your Yaris. It folds flatter. However, I have found that in a year and a half of owning my Yaris, it hasn’t been a big issue (although I would still like to have one!). About the only time I have to fold the rear seat down is when I am hauling rifles that are too long to put in the hatch. If I need to haul anything larger, I use one of our bigger vehicles.

I just want a basic car with A/C, a RADIO (lol), to be able to fold the back seat down, cruise control, and power windows (although I'm waffling on that...but I'm thinking that I want to be able to control the back windows while I'm on the highway, so I guess I'll go for it...). Why can't it just come with that?
I don't care about power door locks, satellite radio, etc. lol

If you ask me, power windows are not necessary in a car that is small enough that it is easy to reach over and roll the passenger window down from the driver's seat. But I have a 2-door hatch, so no back windows to speak of. Same goes for power locks, I prefer not having them as they are just another expensive component to replace when they break.

Also, I have cruise control on mine, but never use it except on very rare occasions that we go anywhere in the Yaris that requires several hours of highway driving (we have two other vehicles, so my car is mostly for commuting and shorter trips).

Cheers! M2

[STC]

Originally Posted by osmoq

And SCT...yeah, I know. I hate it because I really don't care about most of that stuff, but the two things I want require me to get the POWER package... I just want a basic car with A/C, a RADIO (lol), to be able to fold the back seat down, cruise control, and power windows (although I'm waffling on that...but I'm thinking that I want to be able to control the back windows while I'm on the highway, so I guess I'll go for it...). Why can't it just come with that?
I don't care about power door locks, satellite radio, etc. lol

Thanks for all the clarification...I keep reading conflicting things, maybe coming from different models or something, so I couldn't find definitive information.

The only thing is if I NEED to upgrade because I'll be driving it in the winter, then I will. So if anyone has specific comments about that, that would be great. Although it looks like I might be upgrading more than I intended, anyway... Ah, well...a rear window defroster will be nice I suppose... :p

I still might just go with the base. What good is having this car going to be if I can't afford to go on the road trips I'm planning? :)

Thanks for the help, all of you!!

Yeah, me too! I’m a minimalist when it comes to material things. After crunching the numbers, for me the best value came out to the Convenience Package... middle of the road. I did add two Option Accessories (Tachometer and Mats). I live in the North East; the Convenience Package comes with the All Weather Guard Package... good for winter and harsh conditions.

As Rain says... maybe you could negotiate a Package? Sales are slumping and a dealer would like to get rid of the 2010 stock to make room for the 2011’s...

It was the first new car for me. I decided to negotiate. Just make sure you do your HW. Dealers are out to make money off you. If you can create a good business friendship and understand how the dealership works, you will do well. Know the difference between MSRP (Sticker Price), Factory Invoice, True Average, and True Cost. You can then come to a Fair Market Value Price...

The True Cost is generally what you want to shoot for. This is the estimation of what the dealer paid for that specific car. The cost is determined on the Factory Invoice total, minus any Holdbacks (National, Regional, etc), and Customer and Dealer Incentives. Toyota USA Dealer Holdback (DH) is @ 2%. So, your invoice offset price for the vehicle can be well below the Factory Invoice.

Also, there are fees that are required and unavoidable... These are
1. Destination charge
2. Title and Registration
3. Documentation fee, and
4. State Sales Tax

In many states there is a cap (State Law) on the Documentation fee amount. In states with no laws, be leery in paying Doc fees of over $150.

Be careful of Dealerships that will try to push a preparation fee, disability insurance, credit life insurance, and other add-ons... these are all not necessary and totally avoidable. Check out many dealerships and areas...

Anybody have further advice? Threads to help?

Cheers!

[STC]

Originally Posted by bkrownd

IMO, the world must have turned upside-down the day when when cupholders and A.C. became standard features, but a cheap radio and rear window wiper are only options. Whaaaat???

LOL!

My Canadian friend tells me 'Cupholders' are a Royalty. They determine the value of the vehicle... You have to base it all on the cupholders!

[bkrownd]

Originally Posted by STC

My Canadian friend tells me 'Cupholders' are a Royalty. They determine the value of the vehicle... You have to base it all on the cupholders!

This is the first car I've had with cupholders or AC. Feels like a limousine!