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Old 06-14-2010, 01:22 PM   #19
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sorry just want to make sure before I buy tires. Have you heard anything about a brand called "Achilles"??
I have not, but the 205s should fit fine, esp since you're stock height.
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Old 06-14-2010, 01:23 PM   #20
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With 16x7, ET38-40, I would recommend 195/50/16, which is OEM size.
Where is that standard size?
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Old 06-14-2010, 02:47 PM   #21
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My guess is that 195/60 R16's are an OEM option in other countries. I think the only "big" OEM option beyond the standard 14's or 15's is the 18" TRD wheel/tire combo.

For the record, I've been driving on the General Altimax HP's (185/60R15's) for a while - they're no better than the OEM Goodyear's. Sigh...
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:36 PM   #22
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Where is that standard size?
195/50/16 is JDM OEM for the Vitz and Belta.
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:43 AM   #23
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195/50/16 is JDM OEM for the Vitz and Belta.
Oh snap.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:31 PM   #24
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so....which tire is the best choice for non-lowered?
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:36 PM   #25
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cost no object-Michelin Harmony in the OEM 185-60/15. cost considered-I've heard the Yokohama TRZ's are pretty good on this car. And no they didn't last really long, but I liked my Bridgestone Potenza RE92's, unfortunately, they cost almost what the Michelin's do.
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cost no object-Michelin Harmony in the OEM 185-60/15. cost considered-I've heard the Yokohama TRZ's are pretty good on this car. And no they didn't last really long, but I liked my Bridgestone Potenza RE92's, unfortunately, they cost almost what the Michelin's do.
i definitely disagree. What tires are the best completely depends on what you are looking for. Are you looking for the most traction? The longest life? The best gas mileage?

All 3 questions have a different answer.
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Old 06-15-2010, 05:06 PM   #27
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try all the tires you want.

you need to get a rear sway bar.

get a sway bar for the cost of one tire,
slap it on, and then even OEM tires will seem like performance tires.
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Okay, for best gas milage + quiet ride/ride comfort? I suppose that's the two main opposites = compromise needed.
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Old 06-15-2010, 08:02 PM   #29
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Based on the priorities you've described, in my experience, for stock size, I'd stay with an OEM tire. I know it's not an interesting choice, but Toyota wasn't stupid when they picked the OEM tire. The OEM Goodyear Eagle LS tires that I had were comfortable, predictable and handled the foul weather well.

I do like my new General Altimax HP's (stock 185/60R15's) but they are a bit louder and there's no improvement in dry grip over the Eagles. Even though the General's are H-rated, their sidewalls are no stiffer than the T-rated Goodyear's so highway performance is the same.

I admit that my opinion of the General's is based on two things: I'm stuck with 'em & they have a cool-looking tread. The General's were also cheaper than the Goodyear's...
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Based on my experience, for stock size, I'd stay with an OEM tire. I know it's not an interesting choice, but Toyota wasn't stupid when they picked the OEM tire. The OEM Goodyear Eagle LS tires that I had were comfortable, predictable and handled the foul weather well.

I do like my new General Altimax HP's (stock 185/60R15's) but they are a bit louder and there's no improvement in dry grip over the Eagles. Even though the General's are H-rated, their sidewalls are no stiffer than the T-rated Goodyear's so highway performance is the same.

I admit that my opinion of the General's is based on two things: I'm stuck with 'em & they have a cool-looking tread. The General's were also cheaper than the Goodyear's...
That doesn't mean that what Toyota does is the right choice for everybody.
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