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Old 10-22-2012, 02:03 PM   #19
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^ The coil springs are for up and down movemente. We are talking about the horizontal "spring" that we call a sway bar/torsion bar. Different movement. It doesn't come with the car, but the torsion/sway bar is what we are talking about. When the car goes into a corner, the bar resists being twisted, just like your spring example. This transfers weight.

The front bar on the Yaris IS a sway bar - independent suspension up front.
Agreed. I was clarifying Sirius' mis-statement re the Yaris' suspension type.

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The Yaris has a torsion beam suspension so the sway bar isn't really a sway bar in the conventional sense but is instead a reinforcing spring for the torsion beam. It attaches to trailing arm part of torsion Beam. If this is the TRD Sway Bar for the Yaris (PTR11-52071), the installation instructions over at TRD Sparks where I got mine.

A sway bar is indeed a torsion spring, but the rear suspension on the Yaris isn't a torsion bar set-up, as Sirius-XM says it is. It isn't.

The sway bar isnt "a reinforcing spring spring for the torsion beam", as he states. It's a torsion spring to be installed (in the case of the Yaris) on a coil-sprung solid type rear axle. Same net effect, to minimize roll but not acting on a torsion bar type of axle in this case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_bar_suspension
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:13 PM   #20
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Glad we got that all straightened out!
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Old 10-22-2012, 02:58 PM   #21
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Glad we got that all straightened out!

We're both quite relieved, I'm sure!
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:36 PM   #22
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I said the suspension is a torsion BEAM not Torsion Bar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_beam

It is a torsion beam as opposed to two independent swing arms that can be attached in a variety of manners. Using the Beetle as an example, The Beetle had two independent trailing arms that attached to the body via torsion bars in a tube. The yaris has a single unit suspension with a beam that twists to allow the trailing arms some degree of independence.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:48 PM   #23
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I said the suspension is a torsion BEAM not Torsion Bar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_beam

It is a torsion beam as opposed to two independent swing arms that can be attached in a variety of manners. Using the Beetle as an example, The Beetle had two independent trailing arms that attached to the body via torsion bars in a tube. The yaris has a single unit suspension with a beam that twists to allow the trailing arms some degree of independence.
I stand corrected Sirius.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:26 PM   #24
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^ I never realized the Trd bar fit differently than the ur. It sits way up into the crease in you torsion beam.
That's the unique design feature I like the most because I live in an area where ground clearance is a necessity.
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