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Old 01-12-2015, 02:18 PM   #19
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What the world has come to... Japanese quality cars Fit and Yaris are now made in Mexico... France... soon they will be assembled in the back of a Wal-Mart.
. From what I've heard, there were some initial quality issues (more than expected) with some of the 2015 (assembled in Mexico) Fits. Wait and see proposition re will it match the reliability of previous generation Fits. Re what some savvy members have indicated, it might.

2016 + 'Mexican Yaris'....Will the ones (most of the total, I assume) built for the North American market use the 'Yaris' name?.....or Vitz?.....Something else?
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:19 PM   #20
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I was talking to a saleswoman at the local Toyota dealer last week and asked her when the new sedans from Mexico would be in. She looked it up on her computer and said I could order one now and it would be at the dealer in September. It is still going to be called a Yaris according to her. The sedans will come from Mexico and the hatchbacks will come from France.
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Old 01-12-2015, 06:59 PM   #21
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I was talking to a saleswoman at the local Toyota dealer last week and asked her when the new sedans from Mexico would be in. She looked it up on her computer and said I could order one now and it would be at the dealer in September. It is still going to be called a Yaris according to her. The sedans will come from Mexico and the hatchbacks will come from France.
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Very interesting. I wonder if this will be the same for the U.S. ? (IIRC, Canadian consumers got the 'French Yaris' before it was available (new) to U.S. consumers).
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Old 01-13-2015, 08:11 PM   #22
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What the world has come to... Japanese quality cars Fit and Yaris are now made in Mexico... France... soon they will be assembled in the back of a Wal-Mart.
Back of walmart. ...now that is funny!
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Old 01-14-2015, 12:14 PM   #23
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FYI, the SE I saw at my local dealer was a French-made Yaris.
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Old 01-15-2015, 11:50 PM   #24
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Back of walmart. ...now that is funny!
Don't laugh so soon, it may just happen !
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:26 PM   #25
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Test drove a 5spd French built SE. The front fascia is ok but the gaping grill makes the entire car looked more raked than it is. The tail lights and rear end are a lot better than my '12. The interior is much nicer with a sturdier feeling fabric and all of the lighter colors that are smudged to hell with dirt in my '12 are replaced with darker, softer materials on the '15. Plus the iPod and aux connections are in a much more driver friendly area. No idea if the plastic on the door panels still smudges easily. Overall, I really felt that the quality was equal to or better than my Japanese built '12.

I firmly believe that if Toyota would just update the powertrain and increase the power, the Yaris would be in best many rival offerings.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:15 PM   #26
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Test drove a 5spd French built SE. The front fascia is ok but the gaping grill makes the entire car looked more raked than it is. The tail lights and rear end are a lot better than my '12. The interior is much nicer with a sturdier feeling fabric and all of the lighter colors that are smudged to hell with dirt in my '12 are replaced with darker, softer materials on the '15. Plus the iPod and aux connections are in a much more driver friendly area. No idea if the plastic on the door panels still smudges easily. Overall, I really felt that the quality was equal to or better than my Japanese built '12.

I firmly believe that if Toyota would just update the powertrain and increase the power, the Yaris would be in best many rival offerings.
I don't like the 'bottom of the bumper backup light', but I agree with you re the seats.
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Old 04-11-2016, 10:20 AM   #27
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My 2014 Yaris L is from France. I've had it a month and I'm happy with it. The airbag warnings and manual are in English and French. I can just see this car buzzing around Paris with other little Renaults Peugeots and Citroens.
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Old 04-24-2016, 02:19 PM   #28
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Is anyone aware of data re: reliability of the French- vs Japan-built cars? I did see on one site that the JD Power initial quality ratings looked down in 2015 compared to earlier years.

I've been looking forever for a 2012-14 model, partially because those were made in Japan, and their great reliability is one of the main reasons for getting the car in the first place. But there have been so few anywhere near me, I haven't been able to hit on one. There's a 2015 that's popped up a short road trip away and I was wondering if I should reconsider.
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Old 04-24-2016, 03:34 PM   #29
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I've been looking forever for a 2012-14 model, partially because those were made in Japan...
When I was searching for a used 12-14 Yaris, I came across dozens of French made L models and the occasional LE.

You can immediately identify the French made Yaris because the seat upholstery is all black rather than black and light grey. The LE model I finally purchased was made in France.

I was surprised to discover that some of the part numbers are different for French vs. Japanese models... and the prices can be drastically different for identical parts having different part numbers!
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Old 04-26-2016, 02:46 PM   #30
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When I was searching for a used 12-14 Yaris, I came across dozens of French made L models and the occasional LE.

You can immediately identify the French made Yaris because the seat upholstery is all black rather than black and light grey. The LE model I finally purchased was made in France.

I was surprised to discover that some of the part numbers are different for French vs. Japanese models... and the prices can be drastically different for identical parts having different part numbers!
Thanks, I did notice the different upholstery. Also, I finally figured out after a lot of looking that I can tell when a manual transmission is mis-listed as an auto when the VIN starts with a V. The 2014 ATs I've seen all are French-made, while the 2014 MTs were still made in Japan. (Edit, those are for L models. I don't even look at the LEs because they weren't offered in a manual.)

You wouldn't believe how many dealers apparently think any time the shifter is on the middle console, it must be a manual transmission!

But interesting on the parts actually being different.

How has your LE been? Maybe I've been concerned about nothing. I've looked so long and found so little, maybe I need to be less picky.
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Old 04-26-2016, 03:49 PM   #31
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^^^ I had an automatic 2007 Yaris (made in Japan), and now I have an automatic 2014 LE (made in France). Both outstanding cars! Having driven mostly MT's, I was hugely disappointed with the Yaris MT when I test drove a few, so I chose the 4 speed AT... and I can say this little automatic transmission is brilliant!
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Old 04-26-2016, 04:05 PM   #32
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My french-built 2015 has been tight-as-a-drum, except for two notable exceptions:

- Plastic fin pieces on underside of front bumper in front of the front tires were installed completely wrong at the factory. Local dealership installed them correctly for me, and now they fit perfectly and tight.

- Something wasn't secured properly inside drivers-side roof pillar above front door, and it annoyingly vibrated/rattled on rougher/choppy roads (most roads around here, lol). I had local dealer take apart that area and reassemble it properly. Now, nothing rattles/vibrates whatsoever in the car.

No other problems to report with my particular French-built Yaris. I've had it for about 8 months now and 9000 miles.
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Old 04-27-2016, 03:49 AM   #33
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My 15 SE Yaris is very solid. It came from the factory with a loose piece of upper plastic on the passenger side and the storage container behind the manual stick shift has a broken plastic clip on the right side. The dealer is going to order a replacement. 14k happy miles.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:36 AM   #34
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i just bought a french-made ex rental 2014 l 4-door magnetic gray with 45k miles. the other 3 2014 4-doors on the lot were also french made. my yaris is tight as a drum, most tossable little car since my long gone, still mourned 1966 mustang. the only out of sorts spot are rear carpets coming out from rocker panel 2-3 inches.

i should add my sincere thanks to all the posters here for the great info i picked up. i will describe my ex-rental buying experience a bit later.
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Old 05-14-2016, 02:49 PM   #35
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Thanks for the input, everyone.

To kimona -- I've never owned an auto transmission and really don't want to now, but there are so few manuals out there, and the few that I find are many hundreds of miles away. I did rent a Yaris for a few days a couple of summers ago when I was on vacation and I have to admit the auto transmission wasn't bad at all and I really enjoyed the car. In fact that was kind of what put me over the top to wanting one, and to wanting the 3rd gen.

To jstert -- I have noticed some great deals from Hertz sales on those 2014 Ls. As impressed as I was with the one I rented, I wouldn't hesitate to buy one from them at all.
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Old 05-14-2016, 05:24 PM   #36
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There is absolute nothing to fear about quality on french built yaris,
They are in the top of the yearly tüv report, Which ranks cars by the german Road worthy controls every 2 years.
http://www.tuev-sued.de/auto-fahrzeu...d-fehlerzwerge

As you Can see there is many Toyota models in top Ten in all age ranges, and you Can bet on that there is not taken as good Care of the yarises as the luxery cars in the top range by the owners.
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