tooter's manifold adventure...

[tooter]

Originally Posted by jetblast

The American dream of being your own boss.

Once you get a taste of piloting your own little boat... you never go back to pulling an oar down in the hull of someone else's ship.

Look forward to the dyno runs. Would be interesting to see a turbo dyno run comparison also. Once I get this employment situation under control, I'm gonna have to catch you for one of those flanges to go with my intake.

There's no rush as I always keep them in stock.
I think that the Corolla manifold would excel in a forced induction situation simply because it's so much less restrictive than the stock manifold.

[tooter]

Met with the CNC guys today and the 1ZZ throttle body base plate is in the works.

We came up with a simple practical design that will fulfill two purposes. The first purpose is of course the tooter e. t. manifold. And the second purpose is to make it possible to install a larger 55mm 1ZZ throttle body onto a Blitz supercharger.

Installation would involve cutting off the existing 1NZ 46mm flange with a hack saw, and welding on the 1ZZ 55mm throttle body base plate which will work for both the 46mm and 55mm throttle bodies. The smaller entrance to the SC would need to be flared out with a file or a Dremel to smoothly transition to the larger bore of the base plate.

The combination throttle body base plate/bellmouth will be 2 inches thick, with the top inch being the square 4 threaded stud base with the O ring gasket groove just like the original tooter adapter plate...



The bottom one inch will be a continuation of the 55mm diameter throat smoothly terminating at a rounded bellmouth profile similar to these...



...except that the outside diameter of the mouth will be exactly the same as the outside diameter of the intake. This combination base plate/bellmouth could be also easily be attached to any custom fabricated plenum if someone was building their own custom intake manifold from scratch.

I'm only having one extra made as I have no idea if there is any interest in this new product. It'll be $165 including shipping, so let me know now if anyone wants dibs on it.

[Viperoni]

Figured I'd drop this in here :)

http://www.racerxfabrication.com/pag...ge1/page1.html

[tooter]

Thanks for posting that, Viper. RacerX has some very clever ideas.

Notice the first manifold is the stock cast MR2 runners with their own custom plenum design attached to them And note the V8 Mustang throttle body base plate bore. It must be 80mm!



The straight runners are so long on the last manifold it's a cold air plenum because it's located in the trunk.



I've found a few others doing the same thing while searching the internet for manifold inspiration. Every other manufacturer I've seen starts with a basic one inch CNC baseplate as the foundation for their designs. That's the beauty of aluminium. It's cheap, light, and easy to machine and to weld.

[Bluevitz-rs]

As long as the MAF is in a tube the same size as stock, it doesn't make any difference what size the pipe is on either side of it.

[cali yaris]

toot toot!

[Bluevitz-rs]

The Enterprise D

[JustDidIt]

Sure looks fun. You have your own CNC machine?

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally Posted by JustDidIt

Sure looks fun. You have your own CNC machine?

No, but he's hired someone that does. This is all out-of-pocket expense for him, just to find out if it works. If you've got time, I recommend going through the whole thread to see how it's gotten to this stage.

[tooter]

Right now they're cutting the bellmouths on the back sides of the throttle body bases. They're like beautiful works of art...

[tooter]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

No, but he's hired someone that does. This is all out-of-pocket expense for him, just to find out if it works. If you've got time, I recommend going through the whole thread to see how it's gotten to this stage.

That's right, Cranky. I have neither the skills or the machine. The CNC guys are the real wizards. They take my concepts and turn them into reality. It's a totally fascinating creative process that is as interesting as the finished products. And I can tell you from first hand experience... the curiosity to find out what happens can get expensive, but since I'm already totally hooked on exploring the unknown, I just have to keep going in order to find out.

[tooter]

I pick up the parts this afternoon. The second throttle body base will be done then.



This is my inspiration for the design...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGH6cm0XsTg

If it works one way... it'll work the other way.

[tooter]

They turned out beautifully...





This throttle body base plate also has a secondary function in that it makes it easy to install a 1ZZ throttle body onto any 1NZ supercharger. Just cut off the old baseplate with a hacksaw, flare out the end of the supercharger's intake with a grinder, and weld this one onto the intake.





This is a mockup of the et manifold layout...

[4/20 NEVER FORGET]

Awesome.

This thread is awesome.

[tooter]

I find this creative process itself to be MORE fascinating than the end products. These ideas are literally being dreamed up. But that's no guarantee that they'll work! What interests me is finding out what will happen if I do what I dream up, and to always be open to the next idea. Creativity is not a static terminal closed event arriving at a fixed destination. It's a constantly evolving flow of innovation...

...and it's no end of fun following that slender silver thread of interest just to see where it leads.

[CrankyOldMan]

Originally Posted by tooter

Creativity is not a static terminal closed event arriving at a fixed destination. It's a constantly evolving flow of innovation...

That's the beauty of doing this in a non-production environment: there's no pressure to produce, no minimum performance to achieve, and no backlash if it doesn't meet those performance goals. I think that's what ultimately killed Mr. Holdener's project, so it's very impressive to see this continuing to evolve and still generate some commercial activity.

[tooter]

Originally Posted by CrankyOldMan

That's the beauty of doing this in a non-production environment: there's no pressure to produce, no minimum performance to achieve, and no backlash if it doesn't meet those performance goals. I think that's what ultimately killed Mr. Holdener's project, so it's very impressive to see this continuing to evolve and still generate some commercial activity.

Yes. I followed Richard's project with great interest. His manifold was scarcely any different from the design of the Golden Eagle or Weapon R manifolds as they all went down the same well worn path by following exactly the same basic cookie cutter pattern.

I heard a great joke about clicking TV remote controls that holds within it a great insight:

"Women want to know what's on TV... while men want to know what else is on TV.

I want to find out what ELSE is on TV...

...and I've sold enough manifolds and kits and individual parts to be able to afford the luxury of some pure R & D. And now that I have a 2012 Tacoma with a 2.7 4 cylinder, I'm already working on designing a new tooter product for it that no one else has ever produced. You have no idea just how much fun letting your attention flow from one thing to another just for its own sake of the fun of exploration.

This is the pure beauty of a microbusiness.

It's an artform...

...a blank canvas upon which you are free to paint any picture you choose. I answer to no one. As the "CEO", I'm totally autonomous to make my own decisions, and totally free to leave the beaten path to explore my own interests because I have my own regular business for 32 years that puts bread on the table.

[tooter]

Here's a video of the throttle body bellmouth being machined...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gfM93R81Xs