springs recommendation - Toyota Yaris Forums

caineroad · 05-10-2013, 04:55 PM

are there any springs and shocks out there that provides less body roll and more comfort than the stock spring?

1.5 · 05-10-2013, 04:59 PM

More comfort and less body roll aren't really gonna go together. Stiffer springs will help with firming up the ride but that will never be "more comfortable" unless youre one of those crazy people like me who think slammed and stiff as hell IS more comfortable lol

caineroad · 05-10-2013, 05:01 PM

but how does mercedes and audi does it, their cars dont roll as much in the corner and ride is very decent if not better than our stock spring??

i drove a 2013 chevy equinox last week for a road trip and the ride is much better than the yaris, much less body roll even for a big SUV and ride is more comfortable..

how do these manufacturers able to do it?

WeeYari · 05-10-2013, 05:45 PM

^ Springs with progressive rate vs linear rate.

A spring with progressive rate gives oem (soft) ride while cruising. Through it into a corner, and as the springs undergo compression stress, they stiffen up. The greater the stress, the stiffer they get.

Linear springs a stiff all the time. They eliminate body roll nicely, but harshen the ride while casually cruising.

jpmck03 · 05-10-2013, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WeeYari

^ Springs with progressive rate vs linear rate.

A spring with progressive rate gives oem (soft) ride while cruising. Through it into a corner, and as the springs undergo compression stress, they stiffen up. The greater the stress, the stiffer they get.

Linear springs a stiff all the time. They eliminate body roll nicely, but harshen the ride while casually cruising.

From a guy that spent a lot of time researching different springs on here, this is one of the simplest and best explanations I've seen of the difference between progressive and linear springs.

mr_miles · 05-10-2013, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 1.5

Stiffer springs will help with firming up the ride but that will never be "more comfortable" unless youre one of those crazy people like me who think slammed and stiff as hell IS more comfortable lol

Glad I'm not the only one, lol.

caineroad · 05-10-2013, 08:21 PM

which progressive spring do you guys recommend? for minimal drop.

caineroad · 05-10-2013, 08:22 PM

btw does the shock has anything to do with comfort/handling?

caineroad · 05-10-2013, 08:25 PM

i found something like this:

how come only two are progressive and others are linear? isn't the best to put all progressive?

1.5 · 05-10-2013, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by caineroad

but how does mercedes and audi does it, their cars dont roll as much in the corner and ride is very decent if not better than our stock spring??

i drove a 2013 chevy equinox last week for a road trip and the ride is much better than the yaris, much less body roll even for a big SUV and ride is more comfortable..

how do these manufacturers able to do it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeeYari

^ Springs with progressive rate vs linear rate.

A spring with progressive rate gives oem (soft) ride while cruising. Through it into a corner, and as the springs undergo compression stress, they stiffen up. The greater the stress, the stiffer they get.

Linear springs a stiff all the time. They eliminate body roll nicely, but harshen the ride while casually cruising.

Don't take this to think getting progressive rate springs will make a Yaris feel and handle like a Benz. There is a lot more to it.

Those ksports I ran. Yes they're cushier than a lot of springs out there but they go low and thus still stiffen the ride.I think h+r springs are the most moderate drop progressive rate spring but I think they have a higher spring rate so are still stiffer.

I'm sorry but maybe if you bag it you can get better performance and super low and then it will be almost as comfy as a luxury car.

caineroad · 05-10-2013, 09:51 PM

what do you mean bag it?

1.5 · 05-11-2013, 08:23 AM

air suspension

UberSilver · 05-11-2013, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by caineroad

btw does the shock has anything to do with comfort/handling?

Shocks have more to do with it than springs.

You can make a car handle well with good shocks and stock springs, but good springs and stock shocks will not handle near as good.

thebarber · 05-11-2013, 03:00 PM

I've got some tein basic coilovers for sale, $400 picked up in Kitchener

cali yaris · 05-11-2013, 03:16 PM

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how come only two are progressive and others are linear? isn't the best to put all progressive?

How do you know only two are progressive?

H&R makes a really nice set of progressive springs. For minimal drop. Tanabe NF210's or Eibachs are a good choice.

caineroad · 05-11-2013, 09:55 PM

^But does H&R makes more comfortable ride that stock? if so by how noticeable?

TOLMACH · 05-11-2013, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UberSilver

Shocks have more to do with it than springs.

You can make a car handle well with good shocks and stock springs, but good springs and stock shocks will not handle near as good.

+100

caineroad · 05-11-2013, 10:20 PM

can i simply fit a mercedes shock to my yaris? lol

which one is compatible with the yaris?

05-10-2013, 04:55 PM	#1
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	springs recommendation are there any springs and shocks out there that provides less body roll and more comfort than the stock spring?

05-10-2013, 04:59 PM	#2
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	More comfort and less body roll aren't really gonna go together. Stiffer springs will help with firming up the ride but that will never be "more comfortable" unless youre one of those crazy people like me who think slammed and stiff as hell IS more comfortable lol __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

05-10-2013, 05:45 PM	#4
WeeYari View User's Garage Drives: 06 Polar White 5dr, 13 Soul 4u Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,743	^ Springs with progressive rate vs linear rate. A spring with progressive rate gives oem (soft) ride while cruising. Through it into a corner, and as the springs undergo compression stress, they stiffen up. The greater the stress, the stiffer they get. Linear springs a stiff all the time. They eliminate body roll nicely, but harshen the ride while casually cruising. __________________

05-11-2013, 08:23 AM	#12
1.5 Form>Function Drives: 07 Flint Sedan Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tampa Posts: 4,018	air suspension __________________ Instagram: @southernstreets_phil Facebook.com/southernstreetsempire

05-11-2013, 03:00 PM	#14
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	I've got some tein basic coilovers for sale, $400 picked up in Kitchener __________________

05-10-2013, 05:01 PM	#3
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	but how does mercedes and audi does it, their cars dont roll as much in the corner and ride is very decent if not better than our stock spring?? i drove a 2013 chevy equinox last week for a road trip and the ride is much better than the yaris, much less body roll even for a big SUV and ride is more comfortable.. how do these manufacturers able to do it?

05-10-2013, 08:21 PM	#7
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	which progressive spring do you guys recommend? for minimal drop.

05-10-2013, 08:22 PM	#8
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	btw does the shock has anything to do with comfort/handling?

05-10-2013, 08:25 PM	#9
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	i found something like this: how come only two are progressive and others are linear? isn't the best to put all progressive?

05-10-2013, 09:51 PM	#11
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	what do you mean bag it?

05-11-2013, 09:55 PM	#16
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	^But does H&R makes more comfortable ride that stock? if so by how noticeable?

05-11-2013, 10:20 PM	#18
caineroad Drives: 06 Yaris HB CE Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 501	can i simply fit a mercedes shock to my yaris? lol which one is compatible with the yaris?

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