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09-27-2013, 11:20 AM | #1 |
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Spoon Rigid Collars NCP91
Check this video out. Spoon makes collars for Vitz/Yaris now. I just installed RZCrew Garage Collars on my Yaris. They make a big differrnce. Theres also another European company selling rigid collars online, (rigidcollars.com) for our cars.
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09-27-2013, 12:25 PM | #2 |
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wow thats awesome! interesting video
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09-27-2013, 12:54 PM | #3 | |
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Interesting in the video... When they compare the two cars the blur on the "after" cars wheels seems to make it look like it was going faster when it hit the block, making the suspension instead of the chassis take the load - it would be easy to synch the videos in post production. Also the tire on the after car seem to deflect a lot more, another indicator of increased speed or lowered tire pressure.
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09-27-2013, 01:10 PM | #4 |
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Why are there two threads about this?
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09-27-2013, 02:47 PM | #7 |
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It definetely feels like a more expensive car. My father has an IS 300. Collars bring it closer to that feel. In more expensive cars they dont take as many manufacturing shorcuts. Oh, and ride height is unchanged.
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09-27-2013, 03:29 PM | #8 |
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I did notice that the tire in the "after" shot looked under-inflated. I guess I'm not alone on this...
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09-27-2013, 08:52 PM | #9 | |
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Echo's don't have this collar, but Jason's right on point - the factory suspension has way more flex than any positive effect this would ever have...
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09-27-2013, 10:06 PM | #10 |
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Are you able to get these garm i went to the website they dont have shipping to us
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09-28-2013, 01:03 AM | #11 |
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True, but your'e dealing with two fairly independent systems. Like stated in the video, on race cars, these areas where the bolts are that connect the body to the subframe, these parts are actually welded. Its not really the suspension its working on but rather the connection of the engine, transmission and suspension to the subframe which is a rather lose and you can say primative connection on alot of non luxury or more expensive sports cars. The effect of play in the stock suspension is independent of of the effect of rigid collars since they are separate areas in a cars makeup. Thats like saying if you add a front upper strut bar, there would be no positive effect unless a rear strut bar were added as well.
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09-28-2013, 01:16 AM | #12 |
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Note: I have the UR front lower 4 point stress bar. Apparently, these are four of the bolts that connect the body to the subframe. The collars go in first and strut bar slaps on after.
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09-28-2013, 03:01 AM | #13 | |
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Also check RZRCrewgarage.com in Singapore. They make em too for many makes and models. Allthough they dont look as high tech and great as the Spoon. |
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09-28-2013, 07:42 AM | #14 |
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I have had a similar setup installed in Thailand.
They are made of aluminum, machined to replicate Spoon's. Copper grease was also applied to prevent seizure. I can confirm it has a noticeable effect on my Yaris. The car feels 'heavier' -- 'more European-ish' Front caster angles were also increased, due to change in subframe position. I'll say it's pretty best bang for the buck mod. I paid for just approx. US$80 here. (They have service life of 3 years, however.) Last edited by Mittelklasse; 01-26-2014 at 04:35 AM. |
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09-29-2013, 11:54 PM | #16 |
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That play is how caster is corrected during an alignment, as the top of the strut is fixed in place and has no adjustment.
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09-30-2013, 05:16 AM | #17 |
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This is how the rear collars look.
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