Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Got it...

I'll trade you a picture for a picture:

That's Aaron, one of the guys at the shop. He's right at 6'2". That gives another idea of how big the amplifiers is.

If we count the tiles it's a little over 3.5 feet or 42 inches.


D.

[sqcomp]

I dunno if the two channel is big enough...

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I dunno if the two channel is big enough...

I dunno if the Yaris is big enough for all this... LOL


Man matching the angles of the Mids on the A-pillars it's not easy.

D.

[sqcomp]

I haven't actually had my hands on the amps yet. On Monday, I'll be up at the shop to continue work on the L6SE kicks...placing/aiming and glassing the baffles. Hopefully I can get them essentially finished. I have to lay down some more glass today and use some short strand on the inside just to build up the inside and even the surfaces out.

I've taken out the amp board that held the LRx's. I'm conceiving of several ways of placing the amplifiers. I REALLY want to keep the woofer inverted to show off the magnet. I'm considering running the amps in a north/south configuration...parallel with the front of the car...sort of angled as well as to be placed around the woofer, one on each side of it (the two big ones) and one in back of it closer to the seats by the Bit One.

Thinking, planning...

enough about me, what is going on with your mids? I noticed the picture on the last page with the wood baffle...what was that about?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Thinking, planning...

enough about me, what is going on with your mids? I noticed the picture on the last page with the wood baffle...what was that about?

If you are talking about this picture is from another DIYMA member at the Massachusetts meet.





If you are talking about this picture, yes they are out of the spheres going off axis on the a-pillars



D.

[derickveliz2]

I was just playing with glass on the Pilots a-pillar and new Mids baffle, this is my first a-pillar build so lets see how it goes! Oops no pictures I don't have my camera with me... I'll take some tomorrow.



D.

[sqcomp]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

If we count the tiles it's a little over 3.5 feet or 42 inches.


D.

It's exactly 36"...I have 40 inches between the pass through. It's a little tight...and WTH?!? The web site says 24.5" for the S2b. Ooops!



^That board you see the amps on is the same one I had the LRx's on. Something to think about there!

RAWR!!!!

The 320 Ampere DC Power alternator will be hand made and in my paws in 5 weeks.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

It's exactly 36"...I have 40 inches between the pass through. It's a little tight...and WTH?!? The web site says 24.5" for the S2b. Ooops!


^That board you see the amps on is the same one I had the LRx's on. Something to think about there!

RAWR!!!!

The 320 Ampere DC Power alternator will be hand made and in my paws in 5 weeks.

Not fair, I'm going to start signing my post as a Double "D" now...


DD

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I'll take some tomorrow.
D.

DD.

[TOLMACH]

Hi Derick

I am impressed with your committment to get the proper instal in your car.. Couple comments on your last pics with A-pillars podiums:

1. I normally do lots of sanding before applying epoxy or fiberglass resin (sorry, do not know how to call properly the compound you use). Sanding DOES improve adhesion. Sometimes drill lots of tiny holes if in doubts whether the whole shit will hold strongly. Totyota uses sometime crazy plastics for its a-pillars - nothing sticks perfectly.

2. I also prefer to cover the entire a-pillar with fabric I use - one or two layers is normally enough for tweeters based on the material density (thickness).. more layers may be necesary for a midrange pod. Covering the entire pillar helps make the surface smoother, requres less sending, less layers of putty and seems better in a sense that the pods won't separate from the pillar body. See link to pic below: pink stuff is the fabric. This picture under the link is not mine but it helped me do couple pods myself.

http://www.drivesound.ru/installatio..._01_31_800.jpg

[derickveliz2]

Thanks T.

1. I should have done some sanding you are 100% right on the dime, me bad been lazy or tired I forgot )o:
So far the a-pillars material is pure plastic, nothing like my corolla's a-pillar material, looks like nothing would stick to it, I agree with you.
We'll see how it goes.

2. I also agree with you to cover the entire a-pillar with fabric, now that I think about it, I can think of 2 things... One is I wanted it to keep it light,
the second one, my working table is way too small that I was afraid of doing the entire pillar, I may get screw up finishing but that's the process of learning right?

Wish me luck, and thanks keep them coming.

D.

[_S7V7N_]

Okay imma be very blunt....WTF !!! @ SQ with the power plants....Dammit bro you could power your house from them things if the lights ever went out

[sqcomp]

There's a singular mode and direction of thought to my madness. My mode of thought is that I want the best sounding system in a yaris...period. Take a look at mark Eldridge and Scott buwalda's SQ rigs. None were starved for power and none used little amplifiers. With these amps and the power to back them up, there is no excuses on my part.

If I ever become non linear in my output, it won't be for lack of juice or ampilfer output, you can be guaranteed! I'll also be able to hit a 135 dB with NO issues. I might look at 140 with the setup actually.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

Hi Derick

1. I normally do lots of sanding before applying epoxy or fiberglass resin (sorry, do not know how to call properly the compound you use). Sanding DOES improve adhesion. Sometimes drill lots of tiny holes if in doubts whether the whole shit will hold strongly. Totyota uses sometime crazy plastics for its a-pillars - nothing sticks perfectly.

T. you are absolutely right!

After applying good amounts of torque to the pillars some areas give up! what I mean is that I could tell is not a 100% bond.
So I'll drill some holes on top and beyond the fleece, and apply another layer of glass. Then fill in the inside with clay and silicone.
Besides that feels strong and the baffle is rigid and solid.

D.

[TOLMACH]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

T. you are absolutely right!

After applying good amounts of torque to the pillars some areas give up! what I mean is that I could tell is not a 100% bond.
So I'll drill some holes on top and beyond the fleece, and apply another layer of glass. Then fill in the inside with clay and silicone.
Besides that feels strong and the baffle is rigid and solid.

D.

tiny holes spaced 5 milimiteters apart around the whole perimeter will save you ))

I am in russia at the moment - I can easily buy here the regular epoxy rather than fast drying fiberglass resin becasue it is way stronger in term of adhesion (though dries very slowly - around 24 hours per layer) - I normally try to use epoxy for such strange plastic parts (sometimes i start thinking it is not pure plastic but some mixture of plastic and rubber)

I do not think silicone will help you in any eay- concentrate on building the proper outer shell of the pod

Again, sorry for being stubborn - think about covering the whole piece (with lots of prior sanding with harsh sandpaper) can be a solution to your "applied torque and crashed" problem

As requested, I wish you best of luck!! ))

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

tiny holes spaced 5 milimiteters apart around the whole perimeter will save you ))

I am in russia at the moment - I can easily buy here the regular epoxy rather than fast drying fiberglass resin becasue it is way stronger in term of adhesion (though dries very slowly - around 24 hours per layer) - I normally try to use epoxy for such strange plastic parts (sometimes i start thinking it is not pure plastic but some mixture of plastic and rubber)

I do not think silicone will help you in any eay- concentrate on building the proper outer shell of the pod

Again, sorry for being stubborn - think about covering the whole piece (with lots of prior sanding with harsh sandpaper) can be a solution to your "applied torque and crashed" problem

As requested, I wish you best of luck!! ))

Yes, I did punch a bunch of holes and it's drying right now, we'll see tomorrow. Thank you.

I'm using Silicone inside! not outside, I know Glass can get very strong but also too hard it would crack at some point, so the silicone inside around the baffle. (this is just me, who knows if it helps or not)

I'm really thinking about covering everything, but we'll see (I feel lazy now too much work jeje)

So you are in Russia? do you have a picture of your Yaris over there?

Thanks

D.

[TOLMACH]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Yes, I did punch a bunch of holes and it's drying right now, we'll see tomorrow. Thank you.

I'm using Silicone inside! not outside, I know Glass can get very strong but also too hard it would crack at some point, so the silicone inside around the baffle. (this is just me, who knows if it helps or not)

I'm really thinking about covering everything, but we'll see (I feel lazy now too much work jeje)

So you are in Russia? do you have a picture of your Yaris over there?

Thanks

D.

Sorry, no picture of my yaris because... I have no yaris yet ((

I am moving (relocating) to Vancouver BC next month, hence, being a newcomer, thinking of buying something good on gas. I am not big fan of small cars but somehow I find yaris HB cute. I also think it is a great car for car-audio purposes (nice a-pillars and doors, etc.). I do not yet have any job in Canada hence my yaris project should be progressing pretty fast )) .. I started collecting stuff for this new project already )) Will keep you posted

[fnkngrv]

Originally Posted by TOLMACH

I find yaris HB cute.

BLASPHEMY!!!

The Yaris is not CUTE...


on another note...all of this custom work reminds me all of the time about those people that ask me, "but what if you want to sell the car?"

As far as I am concerned if you are going to put thousands or even tens of thousands into a vehicle and then not realize that you have gotten out of it the value then you invested in the wrong thing in the first place. I get a kick out of those people that part their rides out to try and squeeze the most money out of a sale that they can. In this case let's be honest...you didn't have the money in the first place to do the work and need to reassess their financial capabilities. Just look at my sig line for the truth of it.


I have had this thread subscribed from jump. It is a great project and cataloging of the information involved.