Oil Change Help Filter Stuck

[mazilla]

Screwdriver works, but it's gonna get messy. I keep a selection of filter wrenches, haven't had to use a screwdriver since.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by mazilla

Screwdriver works, but it's gonna get messy. I keep a selection of filter wrenches, haven't had to use a screwdriver since.

Screwdrivers may have worked as a last resort back in the day filters were made of sterner stuff,todays filter casing is on par with paper and putting a screwdriver through it will just rip it to shreds and leave you with chiseling whats left to get it off, if the filter is on so tight that you will tear it up trying to get it off why not just let the local oil change shop do the first oil/filter change and tell the guy not to put the filter on too tight.

[mazilla]

Originally Posted by jambo101

Screwdrivers may have worked as a last resort back in the day filters were made of sterner stuff,todays filter casing is on par with paper and putting a screwdriver through it will just rip it to shreds and leave you with chiseling whats left to get it off, if the filter is on so tight that you will tear it up trying to get it off why not just let the local oil change shop do the first oil/filter change and tell the guy not to put the filter on too tight.

I had to use the screwdriver trick last about 2 years or so ago, it worked fine, but it was a K&N filter. I havent had to try it on a fram(etc) in much longer, I'll take your word for it, and keep my fingers crossed I don't have to dind out any time soon!

[Altitude]

Originally Posted by jambo101

Screwdrivers may have worked as a last resort back in the day filters were made of sterner stuff,todays filter casing is on par with paper and putting a screwdriver through it will just rip it to shreds and leave you with chiseling whats left to get it off, if the filter is on so tight that you will tear it up trying to get it off why not just let the local oil change shop do the first oil/filter change and tell the guy not to put the filter on too tight.

You're right. It made quite a mess of the filter but I eventually did get it off without ripping the can off.

I find it kind of strange that so many have had issues with the Yaris filters being too tight. I don't ever recall having this problem with any of my other vehicles.

[SilverBack]

The last guy that installed the filter must've not only torqued it with a filter wrench, but he probably also failed to oil the rubber seal and tread before installing.

A 64mm cap wrench (about $10 at any auto part store) definitely breaks it loose quickly. Just be sure you got the drain pan directly underneath because it will spill a little as you loosen it. It'll spill more if it drops.

[YarisLover09]

Thanks everybody for your quick responses. I was working on it this morning and took a break until just now. I'm thinking of a couple options

Originally Posted by SilverBack

The last guy that installed the filter must've not only torqued it with a filter wrench, but he probably also failed to oil the rubber seal and tread before installing.

A 64mm cap wrench (about $10 at any auto part store) definitely breaks it loose quickly. Just be sure you got the drain pan directly underneath because it will spill a little as you loosen it. It'll spill more if it drops.

This is one option I'm thinking of... I'm sure it would come in handy in the future and I'm looking at a couple that would match the ridges on the firestone filter

Originally Posted by jambo101

Screwdrivers may have worked as a last resort back in the day filters were made of sterner stuff,todays filter casing is on par with paper and putting a screwdriver through it will just rip it to shreds and leave you with chiseling whats left to get it off, if the filter is on so tight that you will tear it up trying to get it off why not just let the local oil change shop do the first oil/filter change and tell the guy not to put the filter on too tight.

This is the other thing.... Maybe for just this one I'll have my local shop do it. My car used to be a rental so I have no idea what they may have done, probably not oiled the seal, maybe they tightened it way too much. After I get the initial change I should be able to get it off next time (hopefully)

What does everybody use for filters, I'm thinking of Wix seems like pretty good for the price.

[SilverBack]

Originally Posted by YarisLover09

This is one option I'm thinking of... I'm sure it would come in handy in the future and I'm looking at a couple that would match the ridges on the firestone filter

I honestly assumed all filters had the same ridges to fit its' matching-sized cap wrench. If that's not true then I would opt for the clamp wrench instead just in case.

[YarisLover09]

Originally Posted by SilverBack

I honestly assumed all filters had the same ridges to fit its' matching-sized cap wrench. If that's not true then I would opt for the clamp wrench instead just in case.

Yeah I think they are different.. The set that I was looking at should be pictured below. The one that looks like it would fit mine is the one at the 9' o clock position.

Yeah I have this mechanic that is pretty good down the street, they looked over my car before I bought it and pointed out a couple things (air filter + radiator replacement) that I needed to get fixed before I bought the car. So from what I can tell they are a pretty good place, I'm debating having them do it so I don't make a mess of things but make sure to ask them not to ratchet it on too tight. I've only put about 2,000 miles on the Yaris since I bought it but I'd rather err on the side of caution with replacing the oil because they didn't have a record of when it was changed. The oil does look pretty clean, still a light-amber color but for the price I figure why not get it done.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by YarisLover09

This is the other thing.... Maybe for just this one I'll have my local shop do it. My car used to be a rental so I have no idea what they may have done, probably not oiled the seal, maybe they tightened it way too much. After I get the initial change I should be able to get it off next time (hopefully)

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Go pay $20 for a cheap oil change then once you get home change the oil a filter to your preferred products..