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Old 01-25-2014, 03:45 PM   #1
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I've thought about making my yaris think it is a toyota echo.....convert to throttle cable and non-abs brakes.

What all does the ecm control? ...what would you loose if you ran a yaris with the echo ecm?
The Echo is not CAN based, so you would have issues with the power steering, body ECU (door locks if equipped, door open status, etc.), and instrument cluster if you switched to a Echo ECM.

If there is enough interest and a commitment to the interest, I would be willing to develop the interface necessary to allow a cable throttle to work with the stock Yaris ECM.
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Old 01-25-2014, 04:04 PM   #2
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If there is enough interest and a commitment to the interest, I would be willing to develop the interface necessary to allow a cable throttle to work with the stock Yaris ECM.
I thought that there had been some development along these lines, but the TPS conversion was found to be unfeasible. Perhaps I'm mixing up something else?

At the moment, the only benefit of drive-by-wire that I can see is automatic idle adjustment to prevent stalling when creeping/cruising at low speeds without having to ride the clutch. Granted, I'm OK with lots of clutch action to regulate it myself, but a more aggressive spring plate may be in my near future and that could become a nuisance. I suspect that the DFCO jerk would also become much more pronounced when slamming the butterfly closed, no?

Either way, I'd love to participate in developing/prototyping this system.
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Old 01-25-2014, 04:14 PM   #3
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If there is enough interest and a commitment to the interest, I would be willing to develop the interface necessary to allow a cable throttle to work with the stock Yaris ECM.
That would be a blessing. I cannot BELIEVE manufacturers have gone to the wire actuated system given its obvious problems. It does not give positive throttle control. In tight manuvering situations this could cause an accident.
I can think of traffic situations where it could cause an accident.

That the government, with all its "safety" laws like airbags, ABS etc hasnt made the manufacturers stop making an obviously defective feature is hard to understand.

No wait I do understand it. The government is an IDIOT!
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Old 01-25-2014, 04:43 PM   #4
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I'm pretty sure it all has to do with stability control. The car has to have the ability to over-ride driver inputs.
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Old 01-25-2014, 05:57 PM   #5
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I'm pretty sure it all has to do with stability control. The car has to have the ability to over-ride driver inputs.
Hmm interesting.

That takes us into a whole another thing.

We are being convinced we dont know how to drive!

And of course once the powers that be convince us of that, they get a big payday!

Yeah!

Hey give my my $100,000 I dserve and I'll go along with it.

Seriously rear view cameras do anything for safety? I mean shouldnt you look behind you and proceed cautiously?

Also it if frequently the front wheels that run over kids with the car backing up. They will run around spastically like kids do out of the picture of the camera.
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Old 01-25-2014, 08:56 PM   #6
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Seriously rear view cameras do anything for safety? I mean shouldnt you look behind you and proceed cautiously?
I got mine one (not installed yet), because I just don't see how much space is left around the bumper, and jumping out several times while parking is a pain in the a§§ ;)
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